[21:55:44] <Justas> Ooh
[21:56:38] <Jibbles> The Roger Jr. Disc is write protected, so either it has a backup of Rojer Jr on it or its blanks. You are not able to download Vohaul to the disc. I hope VSB has considered that.
[21:57:13] <Justas> Hmm, I think that's been discussed before...
[21:57:24] <Justas> Though I'm not entirely sure what eventually came out of it
[21:58:44] <Jibbles> LOL well as long as its been considered... wouldn't want VSB rejected by the continuity comittee
[21:58:46] <Justas> And I don't remember the order of events at the end of SQ4 very well. And I haven't checked because that was written in way before I joined the project, so I always just sort of took it for granted.... so you may be right
[21:59:04] <Justas> Although I do hope you're not
[21:59:13] <Jibbles> You upload Vohaul to the super computer from the brain
[21:59:20] <Jibbles> You upload the Roger Jr from the disc
[21:59:27] <Jibbles> You download Roger Jr into the brain
[21:59:34] <Jibbles> Vohaul stays in the super computer
[21:59:50] <Jibbles> If you try to write Vohaul to disc, it says "Error: Disc Write Protected"
[22:00:29] <Justas> Hmm. Yeah, heard this before.... though I wasn't in the VSB team the last time I heard it so I didn't pay much attention
[22:00:42] <Jibbles> lol
[22:00:57] <Jibbles> Oh well, you'll just have to scrap the whole thing and start again
[22:01:37] <Justas> Been there, done that
[22:01:41] <Jibbles> lol
[22:05:11] <Justas> Just a matter of reconfiguring the intro, probably
[22:05:29] <Justas> Fortunately, we haven't got much of that done, mainly been focusing on playable areas for now
[22:05:40] <Jibbles> Yeah probably. They can still retrieve it from the Super Computer.
[22:06:01] <Justas> Not after it was formatted, though
[22:06:10] <Justas> But I've got some alternate ideas already
[22:06:11] <Jibbles> The brain was formatted, not the computer
[22:06:28] <Jibbles> And thinking about it, that must have been halted somehow...
[22:06:34] <Jibbles> Actually...
[22:06:43] <Jibbles> Thats an inconsistency in SQ4
[22:06:43] <Justas> Hmm, I just realised... I'm not even sure what is this 'brain' you speak of
[22:06:50] <Jibbles> Roger Jrs brain.
[22:06:56] <Justas> Ah
[22:07:07] <Justas> But the format sequence was still on the computer, no?
[22:07:25] <Jibbles> Not sure... let me run that section again and let the formatting complete itself.
[22:08:01] <Jibbles> Ah, your right.
[22:08:05] <Justas> From what I vaguely remember, the death message was something like "You just weren't there to see it", which didn't make much sense
[22:08:06] <Jibbles> From SQ4 Deaths
[22:08:06] <Jibbles> Return to the laser tunnel and leave after setting the format sequence.
[22:08:06] <Jibbles> As you leave the laser tunnel, you hear a voice announce that the formatting program is beginning, erasing all data in the Super Computer and dashing all hopes of regaining your son!
[22:08:20] <Justas> And it was probably just a plot device to force the player to do the end scene
[22:08:39] <Jibbles> et the formatting sequence finish before rescuing Roger Jr.
[22:08:39] <Jibbles> Computer message: **WARNING** T minus 250 - Safety margin: CRITICAL
[22:08:39] <Jibbles> The formatting sequence times out, the computer brain does its thing, and you suddenly realize you've lost the game because you weren't there to see it.
[22:08:44] <Justas> Ah, yeah, Roger Jr. was still on the computer
[22:08:51] <Jibbles> Yeah.
[22:09:06] <Jibbles> I'm not sure why you weren't there to see it though...
[22:09:16] <Justas> Crappy writing
[22:09:22] <Jibbles> Unless if vohaul gets a new body, he goes back and kills you as a baby?
[22:09:59] <Justas> Maybe they mean that when Roger Jr. died, it created a paradox as Roger would have died earlier or somesuch
[22:10:45] <Justas> Although as the death would've taken place after Roger Jr. saved him, that wouldn't make much sense
[22:10:55] <Justas> Gyoooaaarrrr!
[22:11:01] * Justas bands head against wall
[22:11:04] <Jibbles> Maybe the Roger Jr that came back to get Roger was from AFTER SQ12, and he did it because he knew that it was his dad that had to save him?
[22:11:15] <Justas> Hmm
[22:11:32] <Justas> Possible.
[22:11:51] <Justas> I'll just feed this discussion to the VSB forum and have pcj figure out a solution with his 190-200 IQ
[22:12:44] <Jibbles> No, Roger Jr that was captured was the same one as came back to get Roger. Says so in the cut-scene before the GG
[22:13:37] <Jibbles> I think I'll put the SQ4 inconsistency in the JT for discussion
[22:13:47] <Justas> Heh
- We may have a severe continuity problem.
- Or we may also not have that problem, if this has been somehow solved before or Jib and I were just overlooking something.
- If it still is a problem, we should probably find a way around it
As for those alternate ideas I mentioned, the apes might not get the disk from the Super Computer after all and just be carrying out an order Vohaul had left for them before his death or something. Hence eliminating the time travel bit and the reusing of Xenon at the beginning... which I don't think would be all that terrible, actually, as we don't have a whole lot of that done yet...