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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:16 pm
by pcj
I looked it up but didn't find anything.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:20 pm
by MartyMcFly
sorry, should have been more clear... its actually from "this island earth".
they build this triangular object where some alien guy with a tall forehead communicated through to them

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:07 pm
by pcj
Ah...well, the doctor will be moving around a bit more than it seems, as the plot indicates that Roger is trying to get him to leave.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:04 pm
by MartyMcFly
Roger can make him burst into ash or something :P

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:12 pm
by MartyMcFly
and are those things meant to be ears or wings?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:14 pm
by pcj
Well, probably.

I mean, he's a hologram, and neither would serve much purpose.

Make 'em ears.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:49 am
by mjomble
They were actually meant to be a hybrid, like "ear-wings". But it probably doesn't matter much, just a weird idea I had and thought would be relatively original :P

But yeah, he's supposed to move around and be sometimes able to interact with the physical world. Though he'd be unstable. So he could pick up a syringe and the next moment, it could fall through his hand. Which would be why he's not a very successful doctor and ended up at an apeman boot camp.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:56 am
by MartyMcFly
insert face
Image

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:15 am
by olzen
Hmm... the only problem is that he looks too good to pass for a malfunctioning hologram :P

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:16 am
by mjomble
olzen wrote:Hmm... the only problem is that he looks too good to pass for a malfunctioning hologram :P
Then again, that was a bit of a dodgy idea anyway. After all, it was kind of one of pcj's ;)

In fact, this looks good and scary enough to get rid of the idea that the doctor had to be a hologram in the first place. Saves a lot of crappy scientific explanations too.

Now, for the next concept-sketch-based crazy idea: Maybe we'll have him as a faceless creature, just like he is right now? Looks even creepier/original and, even more importantly, saves us animation work ;)

PS. There would probably still be "something" in place of the face, but just to give it some texture. Something wrinkle-like perhaps. Or just... use your wildest imagination.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:00 am
by olzen
I agree. I wouldn't mind if you got rid of that element. I think he should have a face. Either it should be very creepy or it should be completely harmless, but still be able to scare the apemen. Something like Skull Island in CMI. But IMO, using that photograph (or any photograph, really) is out of the question...

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:40 am
by pcj
Yeap, there's a sort of human need to see a face there that makes it unnerving.

Great work, Marty.

Now we have to come up with a name.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:48 pm
by MartyMcFly
or...
a) i could have some kind of tv/monitor screen meshed into its head with that star trek dude's face on the screen
b) could be wearing a doctors (michael jackson) face mask which could be covering up alot of its head

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:12 am
by olzen
Hmm... I think idea A would work best, 'cept I'm strongly against using a photo of a real person. But the idea itself reminds me of this Quake 2 monster, so perhaps it could be a creepy brain with its own visage floating around in there instead of a real face. And as for talking, he could just have a vocoding unit somewhere or something.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:45 am
by mjomble
Marty wrote:i could have some kind of tv/monitor screen meshed into its head with that star trek dude's face on the screen
Him having McCoy's face was sort of a joke. He was originally supposed to have a "normal" face that looks similar to McCoy, and then I made the version with the photo as a joke, and then the joke went too far. So we can forget about that particular face :P

And no TV screens - he should be fully organic.

I still think the face could just look like slightly wrinkled skin or sort of like the insides of the ears. Just to give it some texture.

Or just a regular, somewhat creepy-looking face if y'all don't like that idea.
olzen wrote:And as for talking, he could just have a vocoding unit somewhere or something.
We don't need to explain how he speaks without a visible mouth, really. We can just show that he does and leave the rest up to the player's imagination ;)
pcj wrote:Now we have to come up with a name.
I sort of figured that "Doktor Sven", which was suggested on #vsb yesterday, would actually sort of fit in a weird way.